The Secret

topic posted Sat, September 2, 2006 - 4:54 AM by  Sonya
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Check out the new tribe "The Secret". Have you all seen the movie? As an upstanding Unitarian, I certainly hope you have! It's great! Join the tibe "The Secret" or "The Secret to Life" in order to share the insight you have gained from this movie, or other secrets you have learned about life.
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Sonya
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    Re: The Secret

    Sun, September 3, 2006 - 3:48 PM
    It's WONDERFUL! I've seen it twice. Still haven't ordered the DVD yet though. It's super awesome being able to watch it online...

    Here's the link for those who haven't seen it...and believe me, it's not what you think. ; )

    www.thesecret.tv

    I've been looking for the soundtrack...I'm pretty good at internet research, but can't seem to find it. If anyone knows anything, pass it along. I looved the emotional, ancient music. Very beautiful.

    Daiva
    • Re: The Secret

      Mon, September 11, 2006 - 4:59 PM
      Happy that one other person has seen it... I was beginning to wonder if there whole idea of not releaseing to the public (Blockbuster, Hollywood) etc. was really going to produce the effect I was hoping it would have. I know that selfhelpiness is irritating to some people, but this movie is really great and it's much better than "what the beep" in the way it leaves out the cheesy fictional part. I also watched the "Celestne Prophicy" after reading the book by James Redfield. I was hoping that it would have taken the great "insights" from the book and made a great movie, but unfortuatly the poor dialoug, and blanness of the book carried right into the "B" movie. I still love the insights, however, even those are not from James Redfield. He basically borrowed those.

      Anyway, sorry for ranting, but the "Secret" was by far the best movie about the power of thought and action that I have ever seen. None of it was a secret to me, but thinking about it in a more spirtual way was new for me.

      -Sonya
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        Re: The Secret

        Mon, October 16, 2006 - 10:22 AM
        I just wanted to pass this on. It looks great and the sample is very beautiful!

        It appears that it's not by 'The Secret',but it is 'inspired' by The Secret:

        thesecretlabel.com
        • Re: The Secret

          Tue, October 17, 2006 - 7:49 PM
          What makes it particularly appropriate for "upstanding Unitarians"?
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            Re: The Secret

            Sat, February 3, 2007 - 6:36 AM
            Amazon has The Secret movie DVD with the music CD as a set:

            thesecretlabel.com/secret-combo.html
            (there is a $5 savings on this combo)
            • Re: The Secret

              Sat, February 3, 2007 - 8:46 AM
              A friend gave the The Secret on CD for the holidays. She and her sweetie have watched it multiple times. I confess I haven't watched it yet, because I sense a cheesy New Age taint around it. But I'll try to be open-minded, because so many people think it's just the greatest thing.
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                Re: The Secret

                Mon, February 5, 2007 - 9:47 PM
                well, it is a new age afterall and I don't know what's so cheesy about it. Not defensive...I just tire of that label. The secret is a good introduction to the principals regarding the Universal Law of Attraction...you can get pretty much the same info from "What the Bleep Do We Know?" and a hundred other sources. The thing I like to point out is that none of this info is new. Our comprehension of the science behind these principals is growing...that's all.
                • Re: The Secret

                  Fri, March 30, 2007 - 4:41 AM
                  all the "scientists" on what the bleep do we know were discredited or misquoted.

                  to quote:

                  The premise of the film is that quantum mechanics proves a conscious observer is necessary to create reality. The conclusion is we literally create reality with our thoughts.

                  Unfortunately the theory of quantum mechanics does not say this. The film makers are confusing the theory of quantum mechanics with an interpretation of quantum mechanics. This is an explanation to help understand what might be going on, but it is not part of the theory because it is not falsifiable: it cannot be tested in such a way that, if it were false, it would fail the test (without falsifying the whole of quantum mechanics, and therefore all the other interpretations too).

                  To falsify this interpretation you would have to see what would happen without a conscious observer monitoring the experiment. But that s Catch-22: you need a conscious observer monitoring the experiment to see what happens. You can t look at the experiment without looking at it so no one can ever know if this interpretation is true. Even if it were true, extrapolating to we literally create reality by out thoughts is applying reductionism to an absurd level.

                  Don t believe me? You don t have to because David Albert, the professor from the Columbia University physics department who was featured in the film, is quoted in Salon.com saying:


                  I was edited in such a way as to completely suppress my actual views about the matters the movie discusses. I am, indeed, profoundly unsympathetic to attempts at linking quantum mechanics with consciousness. Moreover, I explained all that, at great length, on camera, to the producers of the film ... Had I known that I would have been so radically misrepresented in the movie, I would certainly not have agreed to be filmed.
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                Re: The Secret

                Sun, April 27, 2008 - 10:50 PM
                the movie is cheesy in the way it's made, but if you get past that, the idea is really amazing and it seems to be working for me personally.
                • Re: The Secret

                  Mon, April 28, 2008 - 2:51 AM
                  The principles underlying "The Secret" do actually work. For me at least... they work *to a point.* But....

                  There are real dangers with this kind of "theology" (if you want to call it that.) For one, it's quite easy to make a somewhat logical jump to "blaming the victim." In other words... if things are not going well for you, it is because you are not "thinking right." You are attracting negativity into your life and it's your own fault. Such thinking would fly in the face of three of our principles:

                  *The inherent worth and dignity of every person;

                  *Justice, equity and compassion in human relations;

                  *Acceptance of one another and encouragement to spiritual growth in our congregations;


                  The second weakness in "The Secret" paradigm is that it can discourage positive action in some ways. For instance... I know folks who live by the doctrine of "The Secret" who will not follow the current political race. "It's too negative" they complain. "I don't want to surround myself with that."

                  This kind of avoidance is, it seems to me, decidedly antithetical to a few more of our UU principles:

                  *A free and responsible search for truth and meaning;

                  *The right of conscience and the use of the democratic process within our congregations and in society at large;

                  *The goal of world community with peace, liberty, and justice for all;

                  Unitarian Universalism does not offer us doctrines.... we are each free to search for our own. But.... the seven principles *do* offer us some guidelines as to the pitfalls we may encounter. With a doctrine like "The Secret" where you have six of seven principles waving the red flag..... it really is incumbant upon the "upstanding" or "back-laying" UU to proceed with skepticism.

                  Just my .02

                  Amma
  • Re: The Secret

    Fri, March 30, 2007 - 3:30 PM
    One talking head said that the book was basically a repackaged version of NV Peale's "Power Of Positive Thinking." There didn't really seem to be any secret to The Secret..
    • Re: The Secret

      Mon, April 2, 2007 - 8:56 AM
      Ah, but what a comfort the "Law of Attraction" and other kinds of magical thinking are.
      skepdic.com/lawofattraction.html

      There was a decent piece on the 'secret' on NPR last week. Apparently the literature of the 'secret' actually discourages people from taking positive _actions_ in their life, because to do so would demonstrate insufficient faith and undermine the effects of their positive _thinking_.

      Snake oil.
      • Re: The Secret

        Wed, January 9, 2008 - 7:09 AM
        I am very skeptical of the secret. It doesn't hurt to think positively but some of the claims in the movie sounded pretty farfetched.I wondered about the credentials of the experts and I wondered who they were. Nevertheless, The Secret even received a guarded though positive review in the UU World.
        • Re: The Secret

          Wed, January 9, 2008 - 7:09 PM
          oh my god the uu world reviewed it well?

          oh wow! that's so far off from our humanist and rational foundations. ickipooo!
          • Re: The Secret

            Thu, January 10, 2008 - 11:08 AM
            again,

            What makes it particularly appropriate for "upstanding Unitarians"?
            • Re: The Secret

              Sat, January 12, 2008 - 11:23 AM
              Third time is hopefully the charm. Can someone please answer?


              What makes it particularly appropriate for "upstanding Unitarians"?
              • Re: The Secret

                Sat, January 12, 2008 - 11:31 AM
                I can't say. I'm an unspatnding UU and I found it appropriate. Like most things, I decided to try some of the parts that I thought were okay. Those things were related to thinkiking about what you would like to have in your life. I discarded some other things. But I don't know why it seems appropriate for UU's we like most people want to manifest positive things in our lives.
              • Re: The Secret

                Fri, April 18, 2008 - 1:32 PM
                I think what makes the Secret particularly appropriate for "upstanding" Unitarians (I count myself as more of a back-reclining UU) is that it's
                delightfully funny.

                See, e.g., the piece on the Secret by the Aussie comedy show "Chasers", on YouTube:

                youtube.com/watch
          • Re: The Secret

            Thu, January 10, 2008 - 6:55 PM
            i can't tell you when, but i know it was last year. i felt that the review was well balanced. i have used The Secret in mental health and the people who like it, they're very enthusiastic. it's sometimes hard to predict how someone will react to something just based upon being a UU.

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